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[Lilly]

Ever since my Dean passed away, I have been talking to a very gifted medium.

Well, couple months after he died, I had received a lot of signs and I had dreamed about him a lot. But now, ten months has past, I have done a lot of healing. I still think about him everyday, but the pain is less and less intense. I am very thankful that I am slowly but definitely healing. However, I am afraid that I am losing connection with him.

For example, I no longer dream about him (Not even once), I no longer receive any signs. I still talk to the medium. Through her, I have an ongoing relationship with him. But still, I would like to have a more direct communication with him.

Have any of you heard about reincarnation? I read from one book that people who committed suicide reincarnate right away? If this is the case, does it mean he has already reincarnated?

I read somewhere that intense grieving block the communication. If that is the case, then Why did I receive signs, see orb, dream about him couple months after he died, but now that I am healing, I don't experience any of these anymore?

What do you think? Thanks
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[Cyndi S.]

Hi Lilly!

You've raised some interesting questions. Most of the books I have read about reincarnation don't say that suicides are immediately brought back here, they do say that they have to go to a "healing place" and since there is not concept of "time" as we know it, who knows how long that process takes. The books I've read also agree that when a person leaves this life before they have accomplished what they came here to do or learned the lesson they came here to learn, they will eventually have to come back and finish their task in order to move on in the spirit world.

It's like looking at a totally different dimension when you consider that there is no "time" in the spirit world. You can't think of concepts such as "immediately" as having a significant time frame there as it does here. Also you must take into consideration the "personality of the soul" of the spirit, in other words, some spirits (or souls if you like) may be perfectly content to stay on the Other Side and learn from others there, while some may be eager to come back and finish their "life lesson". They may want to wait for those still here to join them, they may be afraid of coming back so soon... there are many variables so I don't think you can quantify exactly when a soul returns through reincarnation.

You were very blessed to receive so many signs so soon after losing the love of your life. It took literally years (our time ) for me to get a visit from my son, and then I seemed to get several over a period of a couple of years, and now have not had a dream visit in over a year although I do get an occasional "reminder" from Josh that he is around. I think because of the phenominal astral visit to the Other Side that I went on with an Angel, it was my last real contact visit with my son, and I'm alright with that, I remember it very vividly and it was truly a life-altering experience for me.

Perhaps the many visits and signs so early in your grief was Dean's way of letting you know he is there for you and is doing well now, and he is doing the healing work so can't be with you so much right now.

A word of caution, the medium that you see now knows an awful lot about you and Dean and her communications may be tainted a bit by previous knowledge. I'm not saying anything negative, just cautioning you. I do this because I also have a dear friend who is a medium, who told me many things that she just could not have known if she wasn't in contact with my son, but now when she tells me things I wonder if it is truly coming from him or from her own memory (subconsciously!). I know she would never make things up or lie to me, but I also know human nature.

I think intense grieving can work both ways as far as communication with our lost loved ones. In some cases I imagine it does block it, or at the least, keeps some from acknowledging the communication. But in some cases I think very intense grieving sends an SOS to the spirit world that a communication is very much needed so a message is sent very early in the grieving process in order to help the suffering soul.

Can you tell you have touched on one of my favorite subjects? Hope this helps!

Cyndi
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[Lilly]

Hi Cyndi,

((( hugs))) Thank you so much for the information. It really helps.

I remember I once heard James Van Praagh on the radio. There was this lady who lost her sister to suicide, and she asked the specific question regarding reincarnation. And James answered, "A spirit can travel to many different dimensions. That's why even if a soul has already reincarnated to learn a specific lesson, that soul would still be able to communicate with the loved ones on earth. When we cross over to the other side, God will not tell us, too bad, your sister has already reincarnated five minutes ago. It just does not work that way. Think of the other side as another dimension. A soul can travel in many different dimensions. A soul can be at different places at the same time. That is why we will for sure be able to see our loved ones on the other side."

I found it to be very interesting. Also, there are souls connect to eternity. . It seems like souls that connect to eternity travel back on earth as a group together. Maybe they will be playing different roles in another life time. But the love they have shared remains exactly the same.

I used to think Dean has forever left me. I will never see him again. This thought or belief was so powerful, so destructive, Boy, this thought can KILL. But now, after all these therapies that I received, all these wonderful books that I read, most importantly, through my own experiences, I am a true believer of life after death. I know I will be with him again. I need to be happy here and when it is my time, I will be with him forever. I just hope that once we reincarnate together, we will somehow remember what happened to us in this life time, so we don't have to experience it again. I miss Dean so much, but the belief of seeing him again is my hope, and it is good enough for me now!
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[Lil Mo's Mom]

Hi All!
I have been reading a lot and talking to mediums etc. I too have used a medium and she has been able to help not only me but the family as a whole including Keegan's fiance. I have become so more open to all of this...much more than before and have since discovered that I am able to smell different spirits around me, I constantly ask "What good is this to know someone is here if I can't communicate with them!" and yes, I have had Keegan my son come to me once...but there again all I could do was smell him! hahaha but I appreciated the time he spent with me.

I have read that people that die by suicide are taken in and helped in the towers. It is the ones that die by suicide in order to hurt others that are as Sylvia Browne says are on a horse shoe course to reincarnate. I believe that my son's time here was done. I never knew the extent to which he touched so many lives and made so much of a difference in peoples lives. I am constantly finding and hearing of things he did for people even 9 months after his death. I truly believe he was here to be a counselor and to learn compassion.

By the way Cindi...my favorite subject too!
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[SweetSweet Nick]

Hey Everyone - I have a few questions I would like your opinion on..
After you die - do you remain that same age in heaven?
Most of Nick's family & close friends have "heard from him" or dreamt about him - I have had nothing (I am his mother)- nothing that I noticed anyway....why is that? Is he mad at me for not being there for him at the end? Guilt Guilt Guilt
Can he be at more that place at a time?
What about abortion(s) - does the fetus have a soul at conception or only at birth - or at the age it could survive outside the womb?
Thanks for any input
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[Cyndi S.]

SweetSweetNick,

[manda5839]

I think that abortion question can also be looked at as miscarriages and any kind of pregnancy loss like ectopic pregnancy. I have had both miscarriage and ectopic. i felt a bond with both of them so i think they get their souls early on in the pregnancy. weird i was thinking the exact same thing earlier today. I was reading about pregnancy and wondering (when it first is fertilized and is just begining to divide to multiple cells) if they start to have a soul yet? Im confused about it too. But I know i lost both pregnancies one was at 5 wks the other was almost 7 wks and i felt like they did. Who knows but i wish i did!
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